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Episode 273: In-House Copywriter to Agency Copywriter – Catching Up with Kelsey

By Nicki Krawczyk

If you heard our first conversation with Kelsey then you already know she’s a bada** human.

If you missed that conversation, I can’t even sum up all the insights she shares (so definitely check it out if you haven’t already). But the major win was Kelsey earned a promotion to senior copywriter after only a year of being with her in-house agency.

Since then, Kelsey has been up to A LOT, making the major decision to shift from an in-house agency copywriter role to an ad agency copywriter role.

We caught up with Kelsey and she shared what when into her decision to change jobs (even though she LOVED her previous role!), as well as how she went into the interview process feeling more empowered than ever before.

If you’ve ever wondered the difference between in-house and agency teams, Kelsey shares some of the differences she’s noticed as well as how she’s continuing to balance her personal and professional aspirations.

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A Sneak Peek at the Episode

[03:00] I am officially one year into my new journey, having moved from my first copywriting job in-house at a tech company to a senior role at a mid-sized creative agency.

[05:15] At my previous in-house job, I was essentially the only writer for the whole company, but now at the agency, I am part of a dedicated creative team where I get to collaborate with art directors and other specialists.

[08:30] The biggest shock was the pace; in-house, I had months to work on a single campaign, whereas in agency life, I’m juggling ten different clients with much tighter turnarounds.

[12:45] I’ve found that working at an agency allows me to be a “chameleon” because one hour I’m writing for a high-end luxury brand and the next I’m switching to a rugged, blue-collar tone for a different client.

[15:20] I realized that my training in the Academy gave me the foundational “why” behind copy, which allowed me to hold my own in meetings with senior creative directors who have been in the industry for decades.

[24:10] Even though I am a senior copywriter now, I still struggle with imposter syndrome occasionally, but I remind myself that my perspective and my process are what the agency hired me for.

[30:15] My daily life now involves much more strategic “pitching” internally to get my ideas approved by the creative leads before they even go to the client.

[37:30] I am so happy in this new path because I feel like I am finally in the “thick of it” creatively, and I’m constantly learning from the diverse range of projects that come across my desk.

Must-Hear Takeaways

As with every episode, we highly encourage you to listen to the entire conversation! But here are a few of the highlights:

“ The more people you can collaborate with, the more impressive and thorough something can actually be. ” – Nicki

“ If there’s nothing else about our industry, I feel like change is a given in terms of platforms and placements and all of that.” – Kate

“ We have an AI team at the agency and they want us to be embracing it… I wanna be up on everything that’s available to us and use it responsibly and use it to make my life easier, because why not?  If we’re doing it in an ethical, responsible way.” – Kelsey

Mentioned in the Episode

  • Copywriting for Ad Agencies: What to Expect and Why It’s Great for Your Career
  • What’s an Internal or In-House Ad Agency?
  • Ep. 105: Building an Agency – with Michelle Fernandez

Related Links

  • Ep. 99: Running a Copy Agency from Costa Rica – Poorva’s Story
  • Episode 140: Traveling Europe While Running a Copywriting Agency—Chris’s Story

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Nicki is a copywriter, copy coach and the founder of Filthy Rich Writer. She's been writing copy for more than 20 years.

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